{"id":1000005577,"date":"2022-06-02T15:24:58","date_gmt":"2022-06-02T13:24:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forum-engagement.org\/?p=1000005577"},"modified":"2022-06-28T11:30:40","modified_gmt":"2022-06-28T09:30:40","slug":"hydrogene-vert-grande-revolution-du-siecle-olivier-joubert-directeur-au-cnrs-repond","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forum-engagement.org\/2024\/hydrogene-vert-grande-revolution-du-siecle-olivier-joubert-directeur-au-cnrs-repond\/","title":{"rendered":"Hydrog\u00e8ne vert, grande r\u00e9volution du si\u00e8cle ? Olivier Joubert, directeur au CNRS r\u00e9pond"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Parmi les \u00e9nergies renouvelables, l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne est une solution pl\u00e9biscit\u00e9e par l\u2019Etat et l\u2019Union europ\u00e9enne pour la transition \u00e9cologique et \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique. Son principal d\u00e9fi est de devenir durable. Olivier Joubert, directeur de la f\u00e9d\u00e9ration de recherche hydrog\u00e8ne au CNRS, revient sur le secteur et ses perspectives. [Energies renouvelables 1\/6]<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab\u2009<em>L&rsquo;hydrog\u00e8ne vert, c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;un des secteurs dans lequel nous pouvons \u00eatre leaders\u2009<\/em>\u00bb, a assur\u00e9 Emmanuel Macron \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion de la pr\u00e9sentation du plan France 2030. En ce sens, le gouvernement a annonc\u00e9 investir \u00e0 hauteur de&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bpifrance.fr\/nos-actualites\/7-milliards-deuros-consacres-lhydrogene-dici-2030\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">7 milliards d\u2019euros d\u2019ici 2030<\/a>&nbsp;pour d\u00e9velopper l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne vert dans l\u2019Hexagone. La France produit pr\u00e8s d&rsquo;un million de tonnes d&rsquo;hydrog\u00e8ne par an, pourtant, moins de 50 000 tonnes le sont par m\u00e9thodes d\u00e9carbon\u00e9es. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Le principal objectif est de remplacer l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne gris, produit \u00e0 base d\u2019hydrocarbure&nbsp;<\/em>\u00bb, explique Olivier Joubert, directeur de la f\u00e9d\u00e9ration de recherche hydrog\u00e8ne au CNRS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">L\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne est issu \u00e0 95 % d\u2019\u00e9nergies fossiles<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Si \u00e0 l\u2019avenir nous voyagerons peut-\u00eatre dans un avion \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne, pour l\u2019instant, celui-ci sert avant tout \u00e0 produire de l\u2019ammoniac utilis\u00e9 dans l\u2019agriculture pour fabriquer des engrais. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>On utilise aussi l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne dans les raffineries pour supprimer le souffre des carburants<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. L\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne issu des hydrocarbures reste pour l\u2019instant le plus facile et le moins couteux \u00e0 extraire, 95 % de sa production est issu d\u2019\u00e9nergies fossiles. Pour verdir l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne, il faut le s\u00e9parer de l\u2019eau. Mais l\u2019\u00e9lectrolyse, technique utilis\u00e9e pour d\u00e9tacher l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne de l\u2019eau, \u00ab&nbsp;<em>co\u00fbte ch\u00e8re et est tr\u00e8s d\u00e9pendante du prix de l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, indique Olivier Joubert. Pour que l\u2019op\u00e9ration soit un succ\u00e8s, il faut passer par un cercle vertueux o\u00f9 l\u2019\u00e9lectrolyse est g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9e par des \u00e9nergies renouvelables, donnant ainsi de l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne vert qui pourra servir \u00e0 stocker ces m\u00eames \u00e9nergies renouvelables. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Ce sont des \u00e9nergies intermittentes. L\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne appara\u00eet comme un moyen de les stocker et ainsi lisser leur production sur toute une ann\u00e9e&nbsp;<\/em>\u00bb.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Au-del\u00e0 du stockage, l\u2019Etat a pour ambition, \u00e0 travers son plan Hydrog\u00e8ne, de d\u00e9carboner&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bpifrance.fr\/nos-actualites\/les-startups-deeptech-francaises-au-service-de-la-competitivite-industrielle\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">l\u2019industrie<\/a>&nbsp;en faisant \u00e9merger une fili\u00e8re fran\u00e7aise de l\u2019\u00e9lectrolyse et d\u00e9velopper une mobilit\u00e9 lourde fonctionnant \u00e0 l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne renouvelable. Diff\u00e9rents acteurs fran\u00e7ais misent d\u00e9j\u00e0 sur ces march\u00e9s comme l\u2019entreprise nantaise&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lafrenchfab.fr\/2021\/08\/13\/lhyfe-premiere-licorne-verte-hydrogene\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lhyfe<\/a>, qui a r\u00e9cemment inaugur\u00e9 son premier site de production industrielle d\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne par \u00e9lectrolyse de l\u2019eau, avec de l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 d\u2019origine \u00e9olienne locale. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Les objectifs fix\u00e9s par l\u2019Etat passent notamment par ces entreprises qui forment le tissu d\u2019une technologie robuste sur lequel il faut miser<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, indique le directeur de la f\u00e9d\u00e9ration de recherche hydrog\u00e8ne au CNRS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Des avions \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne d\u2019ici 2035<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La ministre de la Transition \u00e9cologique Barbara Pompili a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 : \u00ab&nbsp;<em>La France a la conviction que l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne d\u00e9carbon\u00e9 sera l\u2019une des grandes r\u00e9volutions de notre si\u00e8cle<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. Nos usages seront toujours les m\u00eames, mais les diff\u00e9rents transports pourraient voir leurs moteurs thermiques \u00eatre remplac\u00e9s par des moteurs \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne. Airbus travaille notamment sur un avion \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne qui devrait prendre son envol en 2035. Avant \u00e7a, l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne vert pourrait se faire une place dans notre quotidien. Les v\u00e9hicules \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne permettraient de raccourcir le temps de rechargement passant \u00e0 5 minutes, contre une trentaine de minutes pour les v\u00e9hicules \u00e9lectriques actuels les plus performants. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Il y a des objectifs fix\u00e9s \u00e0 2030 : plusieurs centaines de camions, des milliers de voitures, des bus, des trains circuleront gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. La ville de Pau est d\u2019ailleurs la premi\u00e8re ville au monde \u00e0 avoir d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 une ligne de bus \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais Olivier Joubert l\u2019assure : \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Il faut du temps pour d\u00e9velopper et d\u00e9mocratiser \u00e0 grande \u00e9chelle des syst\u00e8mes aussi complexes<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. Quant aux risques li\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne, le directeur rappelle que, \u00ab&nbsp;<em>comme l\u2019essence ou le gasoil, l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne est un combustible. Il y a des risques d\u2019explosion. Mais il vaut mieux renverser de l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne qui se dilue rapidement dans l\u2019air que de l\u2019essence<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, assure le sp\u00e9cialiste. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Les risques sont maitris\u00e9s. Toyota produit et vend des voitures \u00e0 hydrog\u00e8ne, ils n\u2019ont jamais eu de probl\u00e8mes<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb, poursuit-il. Si l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne est sur toutes les bouches, c\u2019est bien parce qu\u2019elle appara\u00eet comme une solution viable, \u00ab&nbsp;<em>mais il ne faut pas en faire une panac\u00e9e. La transition \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique passe par l\u2019ensemble des \u00e9nergies renouvelables. Elles sont toutes indispensables<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Parmi les \u00e9nergies renouvelables, l\u2019hydrog\u00e8ne est une solution pl\u00e9biscit\u00e9e par l\u2019Etat et l\u2019Union europ\u00e9enne pour la transition \u00e9cologique et \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique. Son principal d\u00e9fi est de devenir durable. Olivier Joubert, directeur de la f\u00e9d\u00e9ration de recherche hydrog\u00e8ne au CNRS, revient sur le secteur et ses perspectives. [Energies renouvelables 1\/6] \u00ab\u2009L&rsquo;hydrog\u00e8ne vert, c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;un des secteurs dans [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":1000005579,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[156,155],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-1000005577","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-engagements-pour-des-territoires-plus-efficients-sur-le-plan-social-et-environnemental","8":"category-engagements-pour-une-strategie-ecologique-performante"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Hydrog\u00e8ne vert, grande r\u00e9volution du si\u00e8cle ? 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